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Unseen Forces: The Path to Justice for Renee Sweeney
How does a community grapple with the haunting mystery of an unsolved murder? Renee Sweeney's story is one that has lingered in Sudbury for decades, and today we have her sister, Kim Sweeney, sharing intimate memories and revelations that paint a vivid picture of Renee's life and the relentless pursuit of justice. Kim takes us back to the fateful day in 1998 when her world was shattered, opening up about the profound impact and the indelible void left by her sister's untimely death. Through Kim's reflections, we get a glimpse of Renee's vibrant spirit, her love for music, and the zest for life that was abruptly stolen.
The investigation into Renee's murder brought innovative and sometimes controversial methods into the limelight. Groundbreaking advances in technology, such as Parabon DNA phenotyping and genetic genealogy, eventually shed light on this cold case, proving just how intertwined science and emotion can be in the quest for truth. As Kim recounts the highs and lows of the investigation, she reveals the extraordinary measures her family undertook, including consulting psychics, all in a desperate bid for closure. The chapter on technology and DNA shows us the tenacity required to push through years of uncertainty and the power of persistence in seeking justice.
Our conversation with Kim also delves into the arduous journey through the legal system, a path fraught with discouragements and a sense of betrayal when justice seemed elusive. Despite the eventual conviction and a sentence that felt inadequate, Kim's story is one of resilience and determination. She shares with us the importance of channeling grief into meaningful action, supporting causes that resonate with Renee's memory, and the painstaking process of rebuilding trust and safety in the wake of such a personal tragedy. Join us for an emotionally charged episode that underscores the enduring human spirit in the face of unimaginable loss.
About Renee Sweeney's Case
Get ready to be captivated and intrigued as we delve into my life of spirits and all things paranormal. Join me, your host, ay Lane, on The Laneway to Spirit, as I share my stories and personal experiences in the hopes of inspiring others to explore their own spirituality. Grab your favorite mug and settle in and let's get started. Hello and welcome to the language spirit. I am so excited to introduce to you today a very special guest, kim Sweeney, who is the sister of Renee Sweeney, who was brutally murdered at a video store on Paris Street in Sudbury on January 27th, 1998. The brutal stabbing of 23-year-old Renee rocked the city of Sudbury to its core. It was the Nickel Capital's biggest whodunit case the murder of a young university student that went unresolved until the police announced late in 2018 that they had arrested a former city resident who had been living in North Bay. Today, we'll discuss the background of the case, investigative insights, the role of psychics in the case, and Kim's advice or encouragement for other families affected by violence. Welcome, Kim. Thank you so much for joining me here today.
Kim Sweeney:Hi, ay, thanks so much for having me.
Jay Lane:Oh my God, I'm so excited to talk about this. Hasn't it been a while? I mean, isn't it crazy, all of this stuff?
Kim Sweeney:it's. It's been a whole lifetime actually, of everything you know, right from right before it happened and everything up to today.
Jay Lane:So it's been crazy, quite the quite the road oh, I can't even imagine what you and your family's been through, so I wanted to ask you some questions in regards to this. Like, especially like what do you remember about the day that Renee was murdered?
Kim Sweeney:home. I went back to my apartment and I had a message on my answering machine the actual machine and it was my stepfather just saying I needed to get to the house right away. So I, my, I just thought, oh God, it's my mom, cause my mom had MS and you know she was still doing relatively well at the time, and so I just kept. I kept calling Renee at work, thinking, okay, well, we got to, you know she'll meet me there, and the phone was busy. So I just kept trying. And then I thought, oh, she took the phone off the hook and she's going to be with mom.
Kim Sweeney:So for some reason that day I didn't end up going the normal way. I lived in New Sudbury, so normally I would take Notre Dame up Paris. I didn't. I went straight and I ended up doing Fruit Road to Regent. I have no idea why. Anyway, I got to the driveway at my parents' house and thought I'd see Renee's car here and I didn't. So I thought that was weird.
Kim Sweeney:I came in the house and I can hear my mom crying. So I thought, oh my God, what, you know what? I had no idea what was going on. So I came up and somebody grabbed my coat. I didn't know who it was, I just assumed it was a home care worker who was here. So they grabbed my coat. Little did I know it was a police officer.
Kim Sweeney:And I was standing in the kitchen. My stepfather says my mom was sitting at the table crying, and my stepfather says to me there's been an accident, okay, and at the store. So I couldn't think what store. And then, um, he said, uh, renee's been shot. And I? I just started looking for my coat. I needed to get to the hospital to go see her. So I was panicking, like you know, trying to find my coat. And then he said she's gone. And I know I fell against the wall and fell down to the floor, and that was pretty much what I remember for that day, you know.
Kim Sweeney:And then after that it was like, well, you know who did this? Why? You know what do they want? Why? Why would you do this? And um, then the fear set in because we didn't know. I, I was told she was shot, because that's what originally was told. And how my parents found out is they were actually watching the new news and the? Uh came up on the news and they're like oh god, you know that's renee's car there in the parking lot. So my stepfather went down to uh, to the paris plaza, and uh said I, you know, I think my daughter's in there, and because at the time I don't think they knew quite who it was, and yeah, that's when I guess they kept them there for a bit and then they all came back here while they continued their investigation it was just so many answered questions and it changed your life as you know it, that moment, forever.
Kim Sweeney:You know, when I didn't know what I was coming to, I thought maybe something was with my mom. And when I was reaching out to my best friend, my rock. You know, when it comes to a family situation where we have to deal with things together, like when I lost, when we lost our father in 1990 to suicide, we we gravitated towards each other and, you know, dealt with it like that. So I thought this was another time I was going to need her, that we were going to have to deal with something. Little did I know, you know it was her this time. Yeah, I understand.
Jay Lane:So it was her this time. Yeah, I understand. So, speaking of her, what was she like as a person? Because I know from speaking with you what she's like as a person. But what was Renee like?
Kim Sweeney:Renee was a strong, independent woman. She, you know, didn't ask anybody for anything. She got the job done by herself, figured stuff out, and she was a very talented musician. She played in the Sudbury Symphony Orchestra. She had a lot on the go. She was kickboxing.
Jay Lane:Wow.
Kim Sweeney:So you know, she was doing stuff like that and she kept herself busy and, yeah, she was awesome. She was funny too. She was funny I'm more the joker, the kidder, but she had her moments as well.
Jay Lane:So Speaking of her. How did the family cope with the immediate aftermath of her murder?
Kim Sweeney:it. It was more, so much more than coping with her death. You know, that morning my mom got up and walked around the house and, and that afternoon my mom was bound to her wheelchair, never walked again. So you know, getting losing someone in itself is is is horrible, getting used to. You know you can't pick up the phone and call them, or when you would normally get together, and all that. So that changes everything, everything.
Kim Sweeney:But in our situation it was getting my mom situated and organized with how her life was going to forever be. You know like there was a lot that needed to be done in the house renovations to widen up the doorways, change door handles, even like the sink, the bathroom sink, you know, to grab the tap, to turn the taps on. That was impossible for her. So just the little things, um, they had to put a chairlift in the house, um, a chairlift going downstairs and a wheelchair lift coming from the main up to the like, from the main entrance up to the like, from the main entrance up to the main floor. So you know it, it it was everything and all that. You know very sad that this is what. What life is now Right, Especially for my, for my mom.
Jay Lane:Yeah.
Kim Sweeney:That was.
Jay Lane:that was difficult so but for you too, because I remember speaking to you and you were so afraid to go out.
Kim Sweeney:Oh, I was petrified. If I was coming to your house, you needed to wait outside for me. We didn't have cell phones back then. I'm waiting for someone to walk me to my car, to take me out in my own driveway to the car. And if I'm coming to your house, you need to come to your driveway and you need to come physically, come to my car and get me so that we could walk in together.
Kim Sweeney:In stores and doing everyday things was difficult because of the fear, but not only that. You know like you get your composure to walk in a store, like, okay, I'm not going to cry, and then you go to the door and there was the poster, the poster with the jacket that they had found just soaked in her blood. So you know, you'd see that as you walk into every store, every store, every place in Sudbury had that and then you like get all choked up and sometimes you just turn around and leave and you know now everything's online, but at that time it was like newspaper stands everywhere and there was a lot like this case was definitely in the media, a lot, you know. So be it, because it it just shook the whole city. But, um, yeah, so it was hard to, you know, get used to things and stuff and yeah, yeah, just to cope, just to cope, yeah, absolutely Can't even imagine.
Jay Lane:Now I wanted to talk a bit about the investigation, and we all know that the police investigated this for quite a while. We know that they couldn't find anyone for a while. But what was the big tera with that investigation? What stood out to you?
Kim Sweeney:Oh, it absolutely has to be. When they did the Parabon DNA phenotyping, that's where they submit a blood sample and that blood sample will actually describe what you look like, the features you have, the color of eyes, color of hair, you know, total, total outline of your face. It's amazing what technology can do now, like in 1998 they only had points of dna, you know, and they would also use, like um, still, if you were a, b, a pause, you know a, b or yeah, that kind of thing. But now to just submit a little bit of blood to them and they can actually say what you look like. And if you look that up, the two, what the Parabon said he should look like, and what he actually looks like is, it's amazing, it's the same person, yeah, and when I was shown that picture, I was asked do you know this guy?
Kim Sweeney:And my answer is yeah, I do know that guy. And then I was asked well, what's their name? I don't know, this face is so familiar. It was just. It was frustrating because it was like I had seen him before, but, as it turns out, I had never seen him before. You know, once we realized who it actually was, but it was just unbelievable. It just made you feel I don't know what it was, but it was. It was crazy. So when that came out, you know it generated a lot of new tips, a lot of new tips, a lot of new tips oh yeah, but unfortunately, none of those ever brought us to the right person.
Kim Sweeney:it wasn't until, um, the ancestry people started doing that and then you put it in a ged and that's when there was a hit. So if you, you know, it was a while back, so there were two hits within the case and one was from each side of the family, and then you have to do the homework in between to find out. You know where they meet and then the descendants of that, descendants of that. So that took some time. But, amazing technology, when we went to, when there was the bail hearing in February I guess February 2019, the judge said he just said this is a case about science and only science. You know as far. So you know that was and it's true. That's what it came down to science.
Jay Lane:Because, they had another suspect before that. I remember that and you know this became part of the case as well. I still remember we argued that quite a bit. But I mean, dna doesn't doesn't lie right.
Kim Sweeney:DNA does not lie. No, yes, they did arrest somebody, uh, in 1998, a few weeks after, but, and that was just what, going by, fingerprints which said were a match, but then they, upon further investigation, were not a match, and yeah, so that. But when DNA was done this time around it was one in a. I believe he, the crown, had said quintillion which means that's 18 zeros behind the number.
Jay Lane:I mean, how accurate is that? I mean, it's crazy. I find that so interesting. I followed that case quite closely, as you all know, but I wanted to talk to you about the role of psychics in this, because I know that you had been approached by different psychics. What led you to consult psychics when it came to her murder?
Kim Sweeney:So that's a whole thing in itself, like you're a believer or you're not a believer, but you become at times so desperate for just anything. You'll just take anything and even if it's not right, you're trying to make sense of something. I would have people call me all the time oh, I think it's this person because of you know, they give you a scenario and you're like, well, maybe that's what it is. You know, they give you a scenario and you're like, well, well, maybe that's what it is. You know. But originally I had I contacted you and there was people who there were girls from the villa, which is where my mom was had gone to see you, and all that kept happening for them was Renee kept coming in. So I had a few of the girls there approached me and say you know, do you believe in mediums? And I said, well, I don't even know what a medium is. So they explained stuff and they said, well, renee keeps coming through. So I had set up an appointment with you and you had no idea who I was or what, and the very first thing you said to me was she wants me to tell you it didn't hurt, right? And I just started crying and crying. And then you were like thinking what's going on. And then you went on and you said you know, when something bad happens, adrenaline takes over and you know that's why you don't feel anything. And then you paused and you said, oh, is this the Sweeney case? And I said, yeah, so you kind of you. You had said, you know, I wasn't really, I haven't really, I don't really know too too much about it. But you know, all I got from that day was that she didn't know him and that it didn't hurt, because that was my biggest thing. And if that's all I ever got from that, I was okay because I just thought the whole time why did I, you know, why wasn't I there to help her? Why did she have to do this by herself?
Kim Sweeney:That were said at the time from you that you had said, and you know, but, um, my stepsister went to see you and you won't, you won't remember this, Jay. You said the street she lived on. You described the area with the green stairs. You described her boyfriend that he wasn't from Sudbury. You described, you said he was from near water and you said, like the Sioux, which is where he was from. And then you said, but he's not there either. He is by water again. And then you said Windsor, and that's where he is. You said you know he was, he was a drummer, you know like drumming hands, and you're like he's a drummer and you came up.
Kim Sweeney:He was. He is a drummer, actually, he. He just played at a bell park. He does a kiss cover band, so he was here this summer. They did, they played here in Sudbury.
Kim Sweeney:So yeah, there was so much stuff that you had said, but she didn't know the details of stuff. So you were just talking and she was just going oh yeah, you had my name, both my kids' names, my mom's name, with her not even realizing what again the story behind it, just that Renee was coming in and just, you know, I lived on Laura and there was the green stairs. You know, you just nailed it all and then so I had to make an appointment with you after that, and that's when you said his name's Robert, robert, robert, that's his name. R-t, r-t, rutt, r-r-rutt, r-r-rutt. Yeah, you kept saying that. And I had somebody else tell me Rob, yeah, robert.
Kim Sweeney:So that was weird. I had another lady tell me that she could smell blood. She could smell blood. So at that time, if she could smell blood in a hospital, and at that time I thought, well, there was a lot of blood Little did we know he was taking people's blood at the hospital in North Bay, yeah, yeah. So you know, there there's so many things that have come through. You just kind of go like, wow, this is, this is unbelievable. How do? How does anybody know? Right, like, but the name yeah.
Kim Sweeney:Yeah, no right like, but the name, yeah, yeah, robert, which is weird because it's not a name.
Jay Lane:He goes by. Yeah, but it's still. Yeah, it was the last name. It was rut. I still remember our art art arties kept on seeing and his last name was right, yep, yeah.
Jay Lane:So, yeah, kind of weird for me, but you know it's funny because I was visited by the police on three different occasions and it was the last officer that I spoke with who I felt was going in the wrong direction and I told him that I felt it was more based on a sexual assault than it was a robbery. And I also gave him his name Robert RT or Rutt.
Jay Lane:Yeah, and I still remember that and I stuck to that because that's what I was hearing and so little did I know. His last name was right and so it was interesting. So did any of these psychic insights lead to any new leads or evidence in the case? Did you talk to the police about this?
Kim Sweeney:Every time I had new information, I always reached out to Officer Weston Sergeant Weston and, yeah, he probably thinks I'm crazy with the stuff that I would come like I got another one, I would send him screenshots of conversations and and, because sometimes I'd feel like, are people messaging me and reaching out to me because they think I can just go and arrest somebody like, yeah, you know, like I had this superpower or something. But you know, and he always took everything I said and, you know, gave me my dignity, so he didn't make me feel crazy, and because you know, some of the stories I had heard that I relate to him I'm sure were pretty far-fetched, but you're desperate. You're desperate after all. This time something has to you know something. So I relayed everything to him and he said, yes, there was one time in particular, I was at the vet's office and this is where it kind of hits you hard, because you look at everybody you like, accuse everybody in your mind if they have some sort of similarity.
Kim Sweeney:Any man with glasses, right, you'd be like it was you. Well, it had to be you, you know. So, yeah, I was sitting there with my son and waiting for my dog and the lady came out and she says oh, I'm in there with my brother, yeah, his cat. I drove him here. His cat's really sick, I don't you know. He's going to take this really hard. So I got a little bit of you know insight on it. And then the brother came out and I froze I'm, that's him, that's, that's him. Oh, my God, that's him. And I want to walk up to him and take a picture and and and you, there's so much I want to do, but what if it's not him? Right? You, there's so much I want to do, but what if it's not him? Right I?
Kim Sweeney:have to remember that too. What if it's not? So I I like instant crying, just tears in my eyes. I froze. So all I could do was um, get the license plate they drove away with. And I reached out and I said here's the situation, here's what happened, here's the license plate number. And it was ran through. And I said now, this is the sister of the guy. So he ran it through and I got back yeah, he was cleared. He was cleared in 1998 through DNA.
Kim Sweeney:Oh okay, so I'm not crazy, because you guys must have thought it was him too. So, but you know it to sit there and think that you know I judge this person and you can't help it. But you the guilt. You feel like I judge this person because what if it was?
Jay Lane:yeah what?
Kim Sweeney:what if it was him? Yeah, you know, because you're, you're angry that after all these years of you know what you did to my family, what you did to her, what you put her through yeah you know the out, the outcome of everything.
Kim Sweeney:You know so, but that was yeah, that was just one of the many things that had happened that they took it and listened to me, and you know, I never got answers or names of people who. It was just that you know. No, it can't be that person, because you know they had an alibi or they were. You know, one lady always reached out to me. It's my husband. I know it was him. I know, and I relay that message and they say, no, it wasn't him. He was incarcerated at the time, so it couldn't have been him. You know, she just wanted to try to nail her husband for something that he didn't do. So you know, and there's a lot of that, surprisingly enough, there's a lot of that. Oh, yes.
Kim Sweeney:I try to frame people or even try to say I did it, so I understand.
Jay Lane:I would get a lot of calls from people, or even clients, that would come to see me and tell me things about her murder, and of course you know I have a responsibility that if I have somebody who tells me something I have to report it, right?
Kim Sweeney:Yeah, tells me something.
Jay Lane:I have to report it, right. Yeah, like done a few, you know, just to put it out there. Not that I felt that it had anything to do with it, but it's still my responsibility to put it out there to make sure that they look at every single avenue. And it was so hard not to talk to you about certain things because there were things that were revealed to me that I couldn't discuss with anybody, and so it was interesting. But I want to bring something up which is kind of different.
Jay Lane:But you know the banker boxes. So they had some banker boxes that they had switched over for the case, and they had a lot of banker boxes and a police officer had burnt those boxes and I received a photo of that banker box being burnt and it had the most amazing outline of a person with their arm up and the investigating officer one of them, I should say had sent it to me and said like I don't know how you feel about this, but isn't this wild? And it really was. And I understood that you received that picture later.
Kim Sweeney:I did. I did. The officer who took the picture came here after it was all said and done and gave me that and I said that was you. I've heard about this picture. I can't believe that was you. And he said it was me. It was just a lot easier to destroy them that way. So he brought them home and did that. But I just want to show you something.
Jay Lane:Oh, there it is. It's on the wall. I got it blown up, okay. Yeah, it's an amazing picture because it looks like the outline of your sister and it does it does. I mean her head, her face, like it's really quite amazing that photo, and when I saw it I had shivers on my shivers, you know what I mean.
Kim Sweeney:How could you not? You know you get people to look at that and most the most common reaction I have is no reaction except a jaw wide open and then instant tears in people's face. Yeah, you know the tears that come down and you're like do you see what I see?
Jay Lane:and yeah, everybody sees it.
Kim Sweeney:Oh, I couldn't believe it. I all I said was that was you. Yeah, you did that.
Jay Lane:Yeah.
Kim Sweeney:And he was not a believer at all. But you know, and that picture was taken. He said he was just documenting you know the process of getting, you know destroying everything, and so he had a few other pictures. But you know how a picture's live on your phone? Yes, when you play to have that picture go live, nowhere do you see that. Yes, and when you let go of it at the end it just jumps to that. Yeah, it's just crazy, it's amazing to yeah, just shivers. It just gives you shivers to see that and to know but yeah, all I said was you, that was you. But yeah, all I said was you, that was you. Yeah, but yeah, oh my goodness, you know.
Jay Lane:But I have to say like they were pretty patient and very good. I remember, you know, speaking to one of the officers and just you know again, just you know, reiterating that I felt that they were going in the wrong direction and I received such a nice thank you letter, you know, reiterating that I felt that they were going in the wrong direction and I received such a nice thank you letter, and that was the first for me in working with police to receive a thank you letter and encouraging them to, you know, to continue going, and so it was really great. But, speaking of which, how has your view on justice and closure evolved over the years, like as a result of all of this that happened to you?
Kim Sweeney:So the officers, through everything, were all absolutely amazing. I can't thank them enough for their kindness and compassion that they showed me and my family that I'll never forget them and all of them. You know he was sentenced to 12 years. Yes, I feel that was an absolute slap in the face. Yes, that was an absolute slap in the face. It took a long time. I mean, he was arrested December 11th 2018.
Kim Sweeney:We went to for a bail hearing in February 2019. That was a three-day bail hearing, so we had to wait till oh, was it the end of March to see if he was going to get bail or not. And that was denied. And there was. You know what. You don't realize the process, how much there is. Like this case was more than just okay. There was a bail hearing and then there was the trial. There was so much more in between Like I believe they had figured it out that it was probably worth about six, another six weeks of full time sitting in court, but broken up in mornings, right, oh, a morning of this, a morning of that and a day of this and the all the pre-trial stuff. And you know that was indicted. So it was. You know, know, we didn't. We missed a lot of stuff going through everything when they they wanted to have a change of venue. You know, the judge felt he should be able to get a fair trial here in Sudbury, which is okay either way.
Kim Sweeney:I just you know, it's about the science and the evidence and and to me, there was enough of it to prove that this is the person. Because, you know, some people say, oh, I'm happy, someone's paying for it. No, you don't want someone to pay, you want the right person, the correct person, the person who did this, the person who is responsible to be the one that pays, not just anybody responsible to be the one that pays, not not just anybody. And, and you know, I had second thoughts. Well, are you sure? And I remember saying are you sure this is the right guy? Yes, yes, without a doubt, without a shadow of a doubt, without a shadow of a doubt. So you know, that being said, there was a lot to go through and some stuff you just go. What a waste of time, what an absolute waste of time, taxpayers, money. But that's the process.
Kim Sweeney:And, uh, like I said, you know, after the six weeks of trial, 12 years you know, the judge asked the jury what do you think he should get for a sentence? And I believe half of them said the maximum of 25 years. Yes, the lowest was 22 years. I believe 20 or 22 years, I can't quite remember right now, but 12, that's a slap in the face. He's up for parole shortly, you know.
Kim Sweeney:Yeah, so I mean it doesn't mean he will get it, it's still a life sentence. You know this was originally a first degree murder charge and then it was dropped down to second degree murder and, um, that's not fair, because this was indeed first degree. The fact that there were two separate attacks that had happened, that he went to the bathroom and washed his hands, so when he came out of the bathroom, it may not have been intent when he won in that store, but when he came out of the bathroom that was definitely, you know, intent to kill her. So but you know there's nothing I can do about that and that they actually have the correct person and now he's serving his time.
Jay Lane:Yes. And rightfully so. So, with all of that being said, what message or hope do you wish to convey to those dealing with similar tragedies? Convey?
Kim Sweeney:to those dealing with similar tragedies Don't give up. The police are trying hard, you know they want to solve everything they can. Out there, Fortunately, technology is just booming the technology with the science behind everything, you know. That's why we are where we, why I got to get through this was who'd have thought a little blood sample would show you exactly what you look like, your color of eyes, color of hair, Like it? Just it's crazy, but the science will help, and the police and everybody's doing their hardest to get through all of this. And you know as horrible it is to just sit back and wait. That's all you can do. Yeah, and, and like I said, I, I gave every little detail, I, I, I related to them and as crazy as they thought I was, they, they gave me my dignity and said, okay, we'll check into it. But, um, life goes on. So you, you on, so you have to move forward.
Jay Lane:Yeah, you do, you do, and at least you can sleep at night knowing that he's behind bars.
Kim Sweeney:I sleep at night now because getting sleep before in the past, after this happened, the fear if you heard a little crack of something it really, it really messed with me as, as a person who I am, it was. It was very difficult. You don't trust people, so but I'm proud to say that since the arrest I've taken everything that I've bottled up and I put it towards good and um, you know, raising money for stuff. I raised some money for the MS society and, uh, pet save our local shelter here They've they've gotten some money. I've raised almost $10,000 for Christ the King church. So you know it's uh, I'm just gonna push forward and, you know, do good things with, be a good person. I always tell my kids, you know, if you go to bed tonight and you feel good about your day, then that was good. You shouldn't go to bed and feel bad that. You know I should have held the door for somebody or always make the right decision.
Jay Lane:Yeah, it's funny because just before our interview I had gone grocery shopping and I saw an honoring Renee sticker on someone's truck window of an old Chevy.
Kim Sweeney:Yes, I did.
Jay Lane:And for me that was a sign and I thought, oh my God, I can't believe I'm seeing this, because I remember how many you had given out of those stickers.
Kim Sweeney:There was a lot. There was a lot. You saw one today. That's amazing.
Jay Lane:It freaked me right out and by the time I came back out the guy was gone, because I really wanted to take a picture.
Kim Sweeney:I love when I see those. It just kind of, you know, you feel the support from the community and there was a lot of support from the community and you know I'm thankful for that.
Jay Lane:Yeah.
Kim Sweeney:And I'm thankful the police never gave up and kept pushing forward and even trying out the new technology you know putting through to. So it's unbelievable.
Jay Lane:I'm, I'm thankful you, you know it's not going to take back, it's not going to get renee back, but it, um, when you see that it just warms your heart it really does, and you just, I just think, I look at them and I look at the vehicle and I just say, yeah, you know I know how happy they were because they were all celebrating, all the police officers were celebrating, when the arrest was made, and you know it was just such a big relief, I think, for everybody, and it created quite a buzz in the community, but it was a good buzz, like you know.
Jay Lane:It was a good buzz. Yeah, it was a good buzz, instead of the buzz that we had before. Yeah, everyone was just wanting to resolve this so badly, and so the police did their job and I'm really happy to say that it got the right person and it's just, it's wonderful. Kim, I want to thank you so much for putting your heart out there today, because I know it's not easy to talk about, and especially you know your sister. She's been gone for such a long time now, but it's funny because I was held up just a few months before that happened and I felt, yeah, and I felt, and I was so how would I say it?
Jay Lane:I was traumatized by it and, and the thing is, I felt that for some reason that brought us together somehow, and so we've known each other for quite a while and I'm so happy to say that we've become friends.
Kim Sweeney:We have. I'm so happy we've become friends yeah. And I'm thankful for your encouragement and I'm you know. You've been wonderful to me and my family.
Jay Lane:Yes.
Kim Sweeney:And.
Jay Lane:I love your family, though I still remember that reading I did at your house. Remember we did yes. And I love your family, though I still remember that reading I did at your house.
Kim Sweeney:Remember we did. Yes, you came here. Yes, helped me figure out who was the ghost or whatever I had in my house. You smudged my house for me because there was a lot of activity going on in here? Yes, there was, and you got it. I'll never forget the cantaloupe, oh the cantaloupe. Oh, the cantaloupe. Yeah, the frozen cantaloupe. You had no idea what was so funny. But and the three hearts, yes.
Jay Lane:Three hearts, oh my God, you can go on, and, on, and on.
Kim Sweeney:Yeah.
Jay Lane:Thank you so much. Like I said, and I'm sure you're going to make a difference for so many people that are going through this tragedy. I mean, there are so many unsolved cases out there missing people, all kinds of things and people go through so much trauma and and uncertainty when these things happen and it's reassuring to hear someone else talk about it and they get the strength from that. So I know you're going to help so many people just with this interview. So thank you so much for that.
Kim Sweeney:Thank you for having me. This was great, thank you.
Jay Lane:I want to thank everybody for listening in today. I hope you have an absolutely beautiful week ahead and until next time, we'll talk to you again real soon. Bye, bye, everyone. Thanks for listening in. I hope you enjoyed today's Laneway Way to Spirit. To learn more about me, visit my website at mediumjaylane. com or my socials on Facebook and Instagram.
